"It makes my butt look big"
added July 2010
Thank you so much for you help and very quick response! I think I may just keep the over bustle then. I think I understand what you mean about tucking in the poofs. She did show me an underbustle and it did seem to make things even puffier. I like the look of the ballroom bustles on your website (it is the least poofy),can I make the bustle look like this? Is this basically what the seamstress is already doing for me? Right now the seamstress is using three points to make the overbustle. With a ballroom bustle would there be more points? Is it possible to do a ballroom bustle with this dress?
added October 2008
added July 2007
I didn't start thinking (until now,) what options to consider for my wedding dress as far as bustling is concerned. What thrilled me was the coincidence that you have MY EXACT DRESS posted on your site (Alfred Angelo #1516 -- the red and black dresses.) I wasn't entirely sure which bustle to choose since I don't want to lose too much of the back detail, so you opened up a number of options for me!
However, I do have a small question: I am a bit full figured (rather...well...ok, my butt sticks out quite a bit.) Will the bustle I choose make my butt look bigger or does it not effect that? if it does, is there one bustle option that would be suitable for the dress AND my figure?
Thank you for providing this link! If you have a comments section for visitors to see, you can put anything from this letter in there! This was a fantastic site with great pictures and descriptions, and I am VERY happy to have stumbled upon it.
THANK YOU! -Dawn
Back in the day when bustles were the popular style for everyone it was because
all that fabric hid the true shape of the behind so people could not tell if
it was fabric or your big butt back there.
What ever bustle you choose is going to be placing a lot of fabric right on your butt area. Usually a Ballroom bustle is less fluffy because the fabric of the train lays on top of the skirt fabric and has the effect of weighing it down. A French Bustle is more fluffy and many brides think it makes their butt look bigger. I think it's better to give your guests more credit than thinking a bunch of fabric can change your butt size.
Yes, you're right about that fact -- I should give them more credit. They should be paying more attention to my dress anyway and how cute my hubby and I look that day ;) (hehe!)
I was thinking of doing the ballroom bustle (which is also the over bustle, is it not?) I figured that would look kind of flow-y and would still show the best feature of the dress. Your pictures were really helpful though! I am very grateful that I found your website! Thank you for replying to my message. You must run a great business. =)
Thank you again, Dawn
added June 2006
Thank you for your site. It has been the most helpful so far. I am making my daughters wedding dress. It has a lining, flat satin and an outer layer of organza that is sandwiched with the satin as one material. There is beaded lace that is on portions of the top and down some seams to the complete hem line of see through lace. It is two patterns put together along with the ideas from two other gowns. It is a princess line dress. A lot of the dress detail is in the LOWER half of the train with buttons all the way down the back center seam and cut outs of lace on the lowest part of the train. My daughter will be flying to me in Virginia, I have all the supplies, we will make a muslin dress and decide where we want the lace and where to put the lace for the show through hem. She will fly home (I have two weeks to do this part) and I will make the dress from the muslin mock up and bring it to her with what ever bustle plans in place at the end of August or beginning of September. Wedding is Oct 7th. I am also making a custom corset, split underpants and slip so the muslin dress mock up will be fitted to the undergarments she will be wearing. But......I need some HELP.
HELP...HELP...How do I bustle up the train when there is NO waist and most of the decoration is in the lower part of the train. I must also say my daughter is a larger boned woman and not a tiny tooth pick. We want the bustle to be as slimming as possible. The pick-up bustle looks like it adds to your size. Does it???? Can you attach a ballroom style (if it winds up there is a lot of material) at the center back seam and the two back side seams???? Down the center back there is lace and buttons but there is not on the side seams. It is planned that a line of lace goes from the base of the zipper in the center back to the edge of the hem IN BETWEEN the back seam and the back side seams of the princess lines. Without a seam or waist or something to secure to how do you prevent it from tearing out??? I have been to a wedding where the bustle has broken and the bride has had to carry the train over her arm for the whole wedding reception. My daughter has waited 38 years for this day. I want to help make it the best I can on my part with a dress of her dreams and comfort on such an important day. CAN YOU HELP ME. Thank You, Peggy-Anne
Bustles are not slimming things. They add layers of fabric to
the butt area and therefore add bulk. The French style is fluffier than the
Ballroom, but they both add bulk to the butt. Usually the first thing out of
a bride's mouth is, "That makes my butt look bigger." To this I say
that the guests at a wedding know that the bride's butt did not grow between
the ceremony and the reception. They know it's the fabric of the train bustled
on the back of the gown.
This is a subject I have to deal with almost on a daily basis. Brides have a right to care about what their backsides look like and they want it to look as good as their fronts. I try to help them think about it a different way - This is the only time in your life you will be able to wear a bustled gown. It is a different look that was once very popular. Unless you are into historical reenactment, this is the only time you will get a chance to wear this dramatic style of gown. Go for it with gusto.
I know no way to bustle a gown shyly. The bride is the center of attention and her gown ought to be also. I know this is not the answer you were hoping for but it's the only one I have short of telling you to cut out the fabric under the bustle to reduce the bulk. I doubt you want to do that.
Thank you for getting back to me. It was very nice of
you to take the time. I will share your email with my daughter. I still have
a question and would like your opinion. On a princess line dress what is the
best bustle for:
1- princess line dress small train - what bustle??
2- princess line dress medium train - what bustle??
3- princess line dress good size train - what bustle??
You see I don't know the size train till I cut out the dress in muslin. Thank you for all your help.
There isn't a set answer to any of these.
For shorter trains I am going to try the Pick-up Bustle
style first, either Ballroom or French depending on what the bride likes. The
longer and wider the train gets the more likely I am to suggest
the French style bustle because it is more secure and the more fabric in the
train you have to work with, the more dramatic the bustle looks. Otherwise,
it's up to the bride what look she wants. Usually you have to
pin the different styles and let her look at them for her to choose. Most brides
can't visualize this in their heads.
Most of the pictures of gowns on my site are princess line styles and there are many variations of bustle already up there. I have a few more pictures of gowns I hope to put up over the weekend.
added April 2005
I am a plus-sized bride and I purchased a Ulla-Maija dress from the Bridal Garden in Manhattan. The gown is off-shoulder with a fitted bodice and a ball-gown bottom. The concern I have is that I have a small waist and a large backside (the gown already sticks out some on the bump). Do you have any bustling tips for me? Thanks in advance.
The best tip I can give you is what I tell all brides. Your guests know that bustle is all fabric and that your butt did not grow between the ceremony and the reception. Actually, bustles were used to camouflage a large behind. It's hard for us now-a-days to wear a bustle because we are not used to the feel or look of all that fabric, it really does not make a butt look bigger.
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